is it ok to eat valium and methadone at the same time?

By RehabRoy at 9 February, 2010, 7:34 pm


I gotta friend who is getting off pain killers and they just put him on methadone- he also takes anti-anxiety meds everyonce and awhile. He didn’t want to tell the clinic that b/c he was scared they would deny him the methadone procedure b/c of the recreational drug use during the treatment- so my q is- will it have a bad reaction if he takes both?
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Categories : Methadone Clinics

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George February 10, 2010

It is very important for him to reveal his use of other drugs. Benzodizepines and other meds, alcohol, cocaine, etc. can cause death when combined with prescription methadone. I would be rather sure that this information was given to him.

I am a volunter methadone patient advocate.

Thanks for being.

Alex February 11, 2010

bad? i guess that’s relative. your friend will be inebriated, now that’s for sure

Tscotty33 February 12, 2010

My close friend just died recently from taking depression meds with a pain med together. It’s stupid and dangerous. You fall asleep and don’t wake up. Methadone is powerful stuff. This is what they give heroin addicts to get them off of it. Its more powerful then Oxycontin and very habit forming. He needs to be careful what he mixes up and probably a quick call to the local pharmacy could tell him what not to take together. I don’t envy him for taking any of that stuff. It might make you feel good but it usually ends most people up either dead, jail or rehab.

cluelessblue February 15, 2010

You need to call any pharmacy. They will give you the correct answer and ask no question.

Dusty B February 18, 2010

Yes. It is ok as long as he is not taking more than prescribed. Someone very close to me has been in a drug treatment program for quite awhile, so I know first hand. He needs to let the Methadone clinic know that he was prescribed the benzo though, otherwise he could get kicked out of the drug rehab program. As long as the meds are prescribed and he has the prescription (or the bottle with his name) he should be fine.

By the way…Valium is not an anti-depressant. It’s an anti-anxiety med.- a benzodiazepine.

Chas.B February 18, 2010

Valium is pretty common with methadone maintenance programs,, he will be fine as long as he isn’t taking more than 5-10mg. But they are going to do a random drug screen on him every month,,, so he needs to be aware of that,,, I don’t think they test for things like valium or xanex,,, they mainly want to make sure you have methadone in your system,,, and that you aren’t using cocaine, meth or heroin,,, They never use to test for,, or didn’t care about pot,,, but it’s been a few years since I was in a methadone program.

Tell him the faster he weens down off the methadone the better off he will be,,, the clinics are in business to make money,, they will keep him on the crap forever as long as someone pays for it,,,

I’ve known people on it for over 20 years,,, it’s just being a legal junkie is all it is,,, if he is smart he will get on the 14 day detox,,, unless he was really using high doses of pain meds for more than just a few months he won’t have very bad withdrawls on the 14 day program.

Methadone really is just as bad as heroin,,, actually worse,, it effects your liver even worse and it is far easier to OD on it,,, you can die on as little as 40mg.

Here is a site you should show you friend,,it’s on methadone clinics and it may save his life

I was on methadone for a few years for opiates/heroin addiction

DynoDiKk February 19, 2010

I am going to tell you this and this is from first hand experience. Benzodiazeopienes will displace Methadone! Methadone is long acting and Valium has a super long half-life (8 days) this means if 10 mg of Valium is taken 8 days later 5mg’s is still dormant in you. With Methadone having a long half life , Methadone is very vulnerable to Valium and eventually in time the Valium will be cancelling the Methadone. Rendering it completely useless.

Benzodiazepienes can displace morphine and throw a person into withdrawal and Methadone is very similar to Morphine. Can you get away with it once? Yes,but again Valium will cancel the Methadone and expedite withdrawal or you can put it as; “the Valium is sucking up the Methadone!”

Benzodiazepienes and Methadone is a proven fatal cocktail in a person that is a rookie or is not used to the combination. It is deadly regradless and I strongly urge this person not to do this! It can kill you!

It is not even common knowledge yet in the medical profession that this is a deadly mix but pharmacologist’s are rapidly discovering this and why this happens they are unsure but it has to do with the pharma kinetics.

Benzo’s and Methadone is a deadly mix and a FATAL ONE! And by all means no XANEX!

The thing is this, if this individual stops taking the Valium for perhaps four days, the Methadone as I said will appear as if it is not working, hence the person takes more Methadone and at this point they are not prepared for the punch of Methadone that hits them when the benzo’s drop to a lower level. This can cease their breathing or throw you into a seazure. You can do it, but you have to know exactly what you are doing.

Edit; yes Valium and Benzo’s are used to get people off methadone all the time, BUT this is applied when the intake of methadone has ceased or it is monitored by a a MD. The question implies mixing the two drugs, as in a daily dose situation, (YOU DO NOT DO THIS!) And in the text, it appears she is experimenting.

The valium will cancel the methadone thus why it is used in weaning.Yes you can use benzo’s but this is after the methadone is down to a very, very low level or depleted. It will expedite withdrawal. AND THIS IS IN A CLINICAL setting!

If a Methadone addiction treatment center finds benzo’s in you, you are toast. Benzo’s at first again bring up methadone levels but than deplete them rapidly. This is how people die.

BTW to the answer below our/my beloved Qtpie,

And I am not playing drug doctor. Yyou misunderstood the question. I been studying opiates and have been on them longer than Doctors been in medical school, plus all the training and reading in the world cannot prepare you for what the horrors of physical withdrawal dependence induces on anyone. The users and people that are on this stuff are the real DRUG doctors. And again the question is mixing the two, which indicates to me, this person wants the benefits of both meds in a experimenatl scenario.

It does not work that way. I don’t rip up people’s answers don’t rip up mine..

This forum suxx. What the hell do you want me to say? It’s okay to mix valium and methadone in your home after a hard days work (To eat them so they can CHILL out?) So this person can drop dead? It is a totally safe mixture?

She did not indicate she was in a re-hab, if she was I assume she would not be asking on Yahoo. Thus I can assume this question meant in the recreational sense! Not while in a Methadone program. Or in a methadone treatment center.

You must remember HARMD (Helping America reducing methadone deaths) was started by a doctor under the arrogant assumption that he knew everything : giving a Methadone patient Klonopin.

Well the patients is dead and had this woman’s husband had read mine and Qtpie’s answer first, he would still be alive. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. All you medical professionals think you know everything, you don’t. A doctor would not say this is okay.

qtpie20121 February 21, 2010

OMG, I can’t believe some of these answers! Yes, Methadone & Valium Is Deadly and Yes he will be caught! They test for a variety of drugs at the clinics and Benzodiazepines (at any level) will get you kicked out of the program. Considering that it takes 30 days to get out of your system then he has pretty much ruined his chances of using the clinic to get clean. Some clinics will allow benzodiazepines under a doctors script provided he is aware the patient is in MMT but the clinic MUST be informed before hand. Also, the clinics that allow this are few and far between these days. In Ky, you cannot even start the program if you test positive for benzos until your urine is negative for it. If you test + after that they start dropping your dose until you are clear 1st offense and 2cd offense is permanent detox.

Ginny February 23, 2010

Diazepam is used with methadone and for people getting off, or trying to get off methadone all the time. Klonapine and Xanex are also used all the time,,, as long as a doctor is the one instructing you to take the valium don’t worry,, he knows your entire health profile.
Yes they can be deadly if used in dosages higher than prescribed but doctors know what they are doing a lot more than a bunch of people on Yahoo trying to play drug doctor.

Look into the detox program if you are ready to get off opiates and do not want to use methadone as a substitute.

Buck Rogers February 24, 2010

It is never safe to mix a benzodiazepine (Valium, Klonopin) with an opioid, let alone a strong, long-acting one with a low therapeutic index (the ratio of Lethal Dose to the Effective Dose), like Methadone.

Nobody can really say whether he will have a bad reaction to it or not, but if he has a low tolerance to benzos, there’s a heavy risk of respiratory depression.

(If you are weaning off of methadone, or you are in withdrawal, then probably yes. )

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